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The truth about the sect of Nazarene Judaism the original Jewish followers of Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah and what prophecy says about the apostasy from and the restoration of this ancient sect.


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Reviewer: Giovanni.DiMedici - - March 6, 2013
Subject: false report attack on james
Watch out for the false accusers "sourcesandfacts" & "help4truth"! What a pair of nut cases!

First, 99.9999999% of people on planet earth are not going to read all that! Lol

Second, the main guilts of Rabbi James Trimm (PHd?) are a) bad spelling and b) bad grammer. Both solved if he had a proof reader and editor - like me James! Lol

The only other Ill, if he does it, would be acceptance of Geez-us (Jesus) and/or anything Christian at all; since Jesus is the anti-Messiah, and Cathicism and her babies - Christianity - is The Whore of Babylon. But, YHVH did that for His purposes - see 2 These 2:11 - they are decieved by Yahweh, and cut off.

I don't agree with everything from anyone human, mostly - just like you!

I do have questions about certain things; but, those two don't get it , obviously.

There deception just made my questions irrelevant; and, I am going to buy, read and use Rabbi Trimms translation of the complete Torah (Bible)! Lol

That's what they did, which they did NOT intend to do! ;^P

That's how I can afford to support Doctor Trimms ministry efforts!

Baruch HaShem, b'shem Yesua HaMeshiach
Reviewer: Nat Sarim - - December 7, 2012
Subject: Stunned
I am completely stunned at the reviews by "sourcesandfacts" & "help4truth".
As the enemy always works, a mild amount of truth is added to mass amounts of falsehood (or the other way around), and these examples here are certainly no exception.
These two "reviewers" have done the ever popular act of lumping numerous (and I do mean Numerous) different beliefs into one "cover-all" category, then giving it the label of "Hebraic Roots" or the equally popular love-to-hate category of "Sacred Name" (as if there would be a negative attribute to The Creator's very sacred Name??)
Under the headings of "Hebrew Roots" and/or "Sacred Name", are everyone from those who simply found out that our 2000 year old Messiah couldn't possibly have a 400 year old name, all the way to pure cults.
These two "reviewers" have lumped every such type of belief/person who believes, into one convenient category, and that, is Wrong, in any language.
I have disagreed with James on many occasion (you can check his own site for verification - I used the same username for that very reason - Yet after seeing the massive injustice being done to him on this website, I found it a necessity to speak up.
Much of what you accuse James of is true, it's true because of errors in YOUR doctrine, not his, yet many things you accuse him of are nothing more than you lumping him in with other groups of belief that You have deemed to be "The same", when in truth the belief of these groups differ greatly from James' beliefs.
In fact there are So Many of these instances that I won't even attempt to address them.
I will say however how "humorous"(if not so serious) it is that at least one person makes the claim that James' writings are somehow "Origen-esc"! Then quote how different James' writings are in comparison to what said person has labeled "Historical Christianity", to which would not and could not exist without Origen's agenda laden "translation" additions.
Speaking of agendas, "Agenda" is the perfect label for the "reviews" given by these two "reviewers".
Anyone who chooses to not take either side at face value, and thus decides to actually "read" The Scriptures "themselves", in sincere prayer, and without the commonly worn goggles of Eisegesis, will find James' writings to be errant in a few places, but the writings of those seeking rebuttal to him errant in MANY places.
Shame on those shunning truth in order to defend their well known "doctrine", which is not truth.
Baruch haba B'Shem Yahuah...and no one else.
Shalom
Reviewer: JamesTrimm - - October 10, 2012
Subject: False Review
Absolute falsehood I have never been a member of the Way International, nor have I ever even attended one of their meetings. You need to get your facts correct.

As for Michael Rood, I do not know Rood, I have not met Rood, I have never seen Rooad and I ahve never even spoken with the man. I am still teaching the same basic theology now that I was teaching in the 1980's before Rood ever came on the scene.

This whole review by "help4truth is simply filled with falsehoods.

Also a response to some of the other Slander that has been posted about me on the internet:
http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_68/8857000/8857710/1/print/sl2.pdf

And accusations of plagerism were disproven in a federal lawsuit settled in our favor years ago:
http://nazarenespace.com/group/bewareslandererandlashonhara/forum/topics/accusations-of-copyright


How clear can I make this: I have nver been a member of The Way International formal or othertwise, I have never even attended one of their meetings. Although both myself and the Way International have had an interest in Aramaic origins of the "New Testament", apart from that I do not think my teachings share any real resemblance to those of the Way International. I do not agree with the doctrine of the Way International. I do not believe that I subscribe to any doctrine of the Way International that is unique to The Way vs. traditional Christiantity.
I do not believe I have ever quoted Victor Paul Wierwille in any of my books, and the few times I have quoted Lamsa in my books have mostly been to argue against something Lamsa said or wrote.

Moreover I have no association whatsoever with Michael Rood, I have never met the man, I have never even spoken with him on the phone.

The Hebraic Roots Version does not support any doctines of The Way International, and although we have a licence to use the Aramaic-English version of the Scriptures which they once published, they granted that to us as a settlment in a lawsuit which settled in our favor. I challenge you to find any passage in the HRV that supports an apostate Way International doctrine. (It has long been recognized that even their own AEINT tnds to conflict with TWI doctrines).

In fact I have written many articles AGAINST the Way International and its false doctines, as well as its history of alleged anti-semitism. I am no fan of either Victor Paul Wierwille or The Way International.


"Hopefully adults know that a lot of what they read on the web is just not right, and just not true. But kids don't know that, they read it and think that it says it, it must be true. … There is no editor on the internet so people can put stuff out there that is just absolutely drop dead wrong."
- Dr. Phil McGraw (Wed. 12-16-09)

There was a time back when I was younger that if something was in the newspaper you just figured it was the truth. But today with unlimited outlets and very little editorial control, what you read on the internet or even in print, can be really questionable. So ask yourself, do you believe the headlines? are you influenced by what comes over your computer screen? or do you still sit back and ask yourself “Hmmm… I wonder if that’s really true or I wonder if somebody is just being sensationalistic? Iit affects all of us so we really need to think about what we're believing

- Dr. Phil McGraw "Behind the Headlines" (5/28/2012)
Reviewer: sourcesandfacts - - October 9, 2012
Subject: Answer the questions - Answer the questions...they are not hard, and you should be willing
So, you claim to never have been a formal and official member of the Way International...BUT WHO CARES... IF you are still using THEIR material and advocating position, which are the materials, viewpoints and conclusions of hte Way International.

NO ONE CARES if you are not now a FORMAL member of the WAY international.

You use THEIR material, their doctrines, their teachers, their leaders, their mentors, their books, and their false Bible.

Your version ( HRM) is based and dependent on the incorrect bible of the Way International.

YOU SUPPORT their doctrines, their material and THEIR CONCLUSIONS !!!.

Lets be clear: THE Hebrew Roots Version you make money from, supports the doctrines of the WAY International,and
they LITERALLY actually gave you a license to do this.

Clearly the Way International believes it is their interest to support your work and HRM (false) version.

You DISTRACT by claiming to not be a FORMAL member of the Way international. People can still understand that you have not answered the questions below. Sorry for you, people are not as gullible or dumb as you think they are.

It is clear that you a preaching another Gospel, another Christ. The messiah you follow is not the Christ of God.

1. You quote their founder Victor Paul Wierwille many times throughout your works, and in those cases you do so approvingly.

2. You quote george Lamsa in many places through what you say and write, and in those cases you do so approvingly. When you quote Lamsa, it is clear you are quoting him either because
a) he supports your views or b) you are supporting his (depending on the particular context).

3. George Lamsa was a (poor) linguist who advanced the view that the New Testament was written originally in Aramaic. Conveniently, Lamsa happened to have his own Aramaic New Testament (which he had translate INTO his aramaic from other non-aramaic sources) to offer for sale.


As others have pointed out:

" Victor Paul Wierwille became associated in 1957 with Aramaic Bible scholar George M. Lamsa,
and Lamsa finished his translating the Lamsa Bible in Wierwille's home. Lamsa and Wierwille produced the first American Aramaic New Testament in 1960.

[ The_Way_International - wiki ].


4. Lamsa was a personal friend of both the founder of the Way International Victor Paul Wierwille , and William Branham.

[ source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_M._Lamsa - wiki ]


5. Lamsa denied that Jesus was the Christ.

6. Lamsa's views have much in common with the occult view of christianity.

7. Victor Paul Wierwille and the Way International deny the historic Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

George Lamsa denied the historic Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

You (James Trimm) deny the historic Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

( and just to state the obvious: If you do not deny the doctrine of the Trinity btw, please clarify where you have ever stated this ! )

" The Way rejects the Trinity, and teaches that, unlike God, Jesus is not omniscient, omnipotent, or omnipresent. According to their ministry, Jesus did not exist before his birth except in the foreknowledge of God. The Way teaches that at his birth, God created the sperm to fertilize Mary's ovum, and is the literal father of Jesus. "

[ The_Way_International - wiki ].


One book written by Victor Paul Wierwille actually has the title "Jesus Christ is Not God",
in which he addressed his belief that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God and Messiah but not a persona of the Christian God or a pre-existent being

[ Victor_Paul_Wierwille - wiki ].


The relationship between Lamsa and the Way International and its founder Victor Paul Wierwille, has been well established:

" Wierwille, became associated in 1957 with Aramaic Bible scholar George M. Lamsa who
finished his translation work for the The Holy Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts (Lamsa Bible) in Wierwille's home. Lamsa and Wierwille together produced the first American Aramaic grammar in 1960 for the study of Biblical manuscripts with the ancient Estrangelo letters.
Believing the original New Testament was written in Aramaic, he was a supporter of George Lamsa's translation of the Bible, and used it frequently. "

[ Victor_Paul_Wierwille - wiki ].


In reference to Lamsa and his version Bruce Chilton, scholar and prominent Aramicist, has said :

A still less defensible tendency confuses Aramaic of the first century with Syriac, a different form of the language. The approach of George Lamsa, who used the Peshitta Syriac version as an index of replicating Jesus’ teaching in Aramaic, has been taken up and popularized by Neil Douglas-Klotz. This approach willfully perpetuates a basic confusion of language, since Aramaic and Syriac come from different centuries and areas (although they are closely related Semitic languages), and is based on uncritical treatment of the Peshitta, a Syriac version of the Gospels


The well-known ministry Christian Research International (CRI) characterized lamsa as having occult theology (metaphysical teachings), which is not hard to agree with:

In 1989 the Christian Evangelical apologetics research ministry Christian Research Institute asserted in a published review that several of Lamsa's theological positions and interpretations were not supported by the Bible. The review concludes by saying:

" On the surface, Lamsa appears to be a revealer of biblical truth and culture and a friend of evangelical Christianity. Closer study, however, has revealed that Lamsa promotes metaphysical, not evangelical teachings which have led him to inaccurate interpretations and translations of portions of the Bible. As an ambassador of Nestorian, not biblical culture, Lamsa became a cultic figure in his own right. "

[ George_M_Lamsa - wiki ].

On one of your websites, you clarify that the Way International initiated a lawsuit against you.
In that same comment you clarify that the Way International eventually settled out of court, and futher that THEY issued you a liscense to use THEIR material.

You stated:

" As many of you know The Way International had filed a lawsuit against myself and the WNAE (under our old name of SANJ) this last summer, alleging that portions of the HRV Scriptures infringed on the copyright of a translation they once published about twenty years ago."

So it was clear, that your association to the material of the Way International was a perception, held NOT ONLY by many who observed your work, but by the WAY International itself also !!!

Second, it was clear based on the comments you wrote, that the Way International clearly understood YOUR MATERIAL and YOUR [so-called] Bible Version to be based on and/or derived
from THEIR WORK.

Your same article correctly noted:

" As part of the settlement they have issued us a permanent license with no monetary consideration. Also as part of the settlement we have maintained that there was no copyright infringement on our part, however we have also agreed as part of this license agreement, to henceforth give credit in editions of the HRV to the TWI version. (Thus allegations of copyright infringement are forever ended.). "

So the remedy for the lawsuit, from the perspective of the WAY International, was not to
clarify that you had NOT used THEIR material. But rather their remedy was that they retained the
rights to THEIR bible version, and issued a license TO YOU to make use of their material.

In other words, according to your own article, your material in your work and your bible version,
is derived from the work, material and content belonging to the Way International, and they
have gratiously allowed you to CONTINUE USING that material.

Now WHY would anyone think that you are associated with the Way International, and their work and their theology ????

BECAUSE YOU ARE !!! and the lawsuit confirms that, further by the issuance to you of a Liscense from the Way International in order for you to CONTINUE USING THEIR MATERIALS in your version, your works, and the content of your enterprise.

So the Way International knows you use and used their material.

Those who watch and read or listen to your own work also understand and have correctly identified The Way International as a major source for your theology, your conclusions and your works, including your Bible Version.

And your work is also based on the work of Victor Paul Wierwille and George Lamsa who worked with Victor Paul Wierwille in the spreading and endeavors of the Way International.

You authored a document called " The truth and the evidence for the originality of the Hebraic Roots Version by James Scott Trimm"

" Around 1995 I was asked to serve on the Board of Directors of the Aramaic Bible Society, originally founded by Dr. George M. Lamsa." That statement is on Page THREE of your own document. Clearly you are hardly distancing yourself from Lamsa, and in fact much of your work is based on Lamsa's work and conclusions.


As to Rood, and your association with him, or your syncronicity with his views, lets just say that
others have pointed this out. One example is here at http://www.seekgod.ca/trfactor2.htm .

Again this is just putting basic facts together. Your claims about Jesus Christ are false.
Your claims about who is the Messiah is false. Your understanding of the history of Biblical manuscripts is very colored by ---- and Lamsa, both of whom were horrendous scholars and worse theologians. By all historic standards of Christianity, you deny that the Jesus of the New Testament is the Christ-Messiah. You further deny the Trinity and other major points of Christian doctrine.

You can teach what you want but it is not Orthodox non-talmudic Judaism, and it certainly is not historic Biblical Christianity. Your views are closest to the Unitarian- New Age [Origen-based] Way International, and the statements made by others should be a strong warning to those who are seeking truth or historic accuracy through your materials. They will be appear to be wanting for a very long time.

As others have asked of you:


As seen on some postings, Mr Trimm now wishes to disclaim the Way International.

Will Mr. Trimm also Disclaim the false version of George Lamsa ?

Will Mr. Trimm also Disclaim his own work based on the the false version of George Lamsa ?

Will Mr. Trimm also disclose the relationship between George Lamsa and Victor Paul Wierwille who founded the Way International ?

Will Mr. Trimm also disclose and admit that his Hebrew Roots Version of the Bible is a re-tread
of the material of the Way International, and that his HRM Version of the Bible, is possible because the Way International issued a liscence to Him, for Free, in order so that he (James Trimm) could make free use of the Way Internatinonal Version of the Bible ???

The Hebrew Roots Movement promoted by Mr. Trimm is another vehicle for the work and
errant doctrines of the Way International, which contradict 2000 years of Christianity.

Surely Mr. Trimm is aware that there are 25,000 portions of the New Testament that have been discovered in Koine Greek, and that this includes 5000 koine GREEK manuscripts, and another 20,000 lectionaries in which the passages from the New Testament have been discovered, and that THEYare written in ancient koine GREEK ???

Does Mr. Trimm understand that these are ancient GREEK manuscripts from all over the world and not Aramaic ???

Will Mr. Trimm also Disclaim the work of those who deny the Trinity ?

Will Mr. Trimm also admit that His Messiah is not the Jesus Christ of the historic New Testament ?



[ The_Way_International - wiki ].

[ George_M_Lamsa - wiki ].

[ Victor_Paul_Wierwille - wiki].

[ About Hebrew Roots].

[ Frequently Asked Questions About Hebrew Roots ].

[ Problems with the Sacred Name movement ].

[ which Jesus -which Christ ].

[ george-m-lamsa ].

It is obvious that you have no clue who the messiah is.

You certainly are against Jesus Christ as the Messiah or Savior.

You are certainly opposed to standard historic documented Christianity, as is available through many links and accurate books.

You are not reliable.

You are not honest in disclosing where your material comes from.

The sources others have listed are there for everyone to read and compare with your material.
You teach material that is not historical and it is not accurate. And you refuse to answer basic questions.

Everyone can tell whether or not you are answering the questions.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS


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Reviewer: help4truth - - September 23, 2012
Subject: Apostasy, Jams Trimm aught to know (Anti-trinity, Anti-New Testament), Cult of the Way International
There have been many articles that warn against the teachings of the group known as the Way International.
The Way International promoted its false teachings originally through its founder Victor Paul Wierwille.
It is considered a cult by traditional historic Christian denominations.

[ as noted by others, some denominations today have departed from their own historic doctrines. That is sadly true in some cases, but that would not change the reality that the Way International promotes views which remain in opposition to the historic doctrines of Christianity and the Christian faith even while claming to have found their true way].

The Way International message centers aeound the denial of the Trinity, altering the identity of Jesus Christ, distorting the historic doctrines of Christianity, and teaching salvation by good works, which is a strong contradiction to the central message of the Historic Bible [ 1611 here] and historic Christianity.

James Trimm worked for and with the Way International for many years.

James Trimm consistently seems to refuse to acknowledge the historicity and accuracy of the Doctrine od the Trinity. Yet such claims about the Trinity [ historic Christian Trinity – here .] and the accurate claims of Jesus Christ [ Evidence for the Historic Jesus Christ – here .] have been examined and demonstrated , many times.


Some of the teachings of James Trimm are known under the concepts of the “Sacred Name” teachings.


Sacred name (concepts) pretends to be historic, but actually involve the importation of talmudic (or occult ?) magical concepts into christianity. Sacred name theology asserts that one cannot communicate with God without the secret incantation of His name, which only those who Have studied the Sacred Name (under certain teachers who usually advocate judaism, talmudic and otherwise) are able to know, pronounce, and appeal to God correctly. It is the rebirth of the concept of the mystical priesthood, and the Sacrd name teacher will bring you into the secret mysteries of the sacred name. Protests all you want, but when you study the actions od the Sacred namers, this is what most of them actually practice.

It is one things to believe in the Holiness of God, and to want to worship Him. It is something entirely different to suggest that UNLESS one does know or write corrct version of the the name of God IN ENGLISH, that God cannot hear or respond to us. The sacred name movement has many strands, because most sacred name teachers are in contradiction to each other, and do not know either Hebrew, Translation or Transliteration principles, nor the History of the English Language.

James Trimm brings together the fase concepts of false Sacret name doctrines, advocates against the Trinity, and then promotes many concepts found in occultic talmudic Judaism. Add to that the teachings od the Way International, and that is Trimm formula for being led very far astray from historic Christianity. Trimm refers to his concepts as Judaism, clarifying his brand of errant conclusions.

Problems with the false teachings of the Way International have been pointed out by many. These include
online information such as:

The Way International - HISTORY . ;

The Way International -- Its Implications . (by Wayne Walker) ;

The Way International .
( By Tal Davis ) ;

LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST THE WAY INTERNATIONAL
MARTINDALE RESIGNS PRESIDENCY... Martindale Admits Fault
.

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These are not small issues.

The Doctrines of James Trimm represent a consistent opposition to the historic teachings of the Christian Faith. While everyone is obviously entitleed to believe as their choose, it should be made clear what those beliefs are. James Trimm seems to strongly oppose historic Christianity and the Doctrine of the Trinity.

There are many claims within the Sacred Name movement. AT its core, much of the teaching of the Sacred Name movement involves the atttempted erasure of the New Testament.

Much of the Sacred Name movement claims superior knowlege of Hebrew. Those claims are false and filled with errors. The claims to historic understanding of the translation process of either the Old Testament or the New Testament are false. Their claims to superior translations are False, and the versions of the Bibe that they are produce are innacurate, error-filled and historically, logically, etymologically and linguistically indefensible.
Sacred Name movement here.


** The issue of Old Testament Translation.

The likelyhood of finding out which Hebrew manuscripts are accurate and which ones are not – from any teacher in the Sacred Name [false] movement - are very very small. If you find out for yoursel, you will learn that you can study and learn on your own. And you will also learn that the level of reliability of the false teachers is sadly lacking. Those in the sacred name movement must demonstrate the courage to ray and seek truth on their own. The tools do exist for the sincere and dedicated seeker to do this.

Rather than wait for the official version of edited history, lets help them and provide the information directly to you , the end-user and truth seeker.

The Historic OLD Testament used by Protestant and the Hebrew community is available online, for Free.

This is the 1524-1525 Second Rabbinic Bible printed by Daniel Bomberg. The 1524-1525 Second Rabbinic Bible is the Old Testament that was the basis for the Geneva Bible and the King James Bible.

The 1524-1525 Second Rabbinic Bible - is available for Free Download in Four volumes.


1525 Second Rabbinic Bible - VOL 01.

1525 Second Rabbinic Bible - VOL 02.

1525 Second Rabbinic Bible - VOL 03.

1525 Second Rabbinic Bible - VOL 04.


The BASIS for the evaluation of Historic Manuascripts of the Hebrew Manuscripts was produced in the 900 page excellent work of historic and linguistic accuracy by the noted Hebre Scholar C.D. Ginsburg.

His Work which is called Introduction to the Massoretico-critical edition of the Hebrew Bible. This ecellent rare work from the 1800s Is ALSO Available in 2 Volumes for Free online.

Introduction to the Masoretico-critical edition of the Hebrew Bible 01.

Introduction to the Masoretico-critical edition of the Hebrew Bible 02.


C.D. Ginsburg (author of Introduction to the Massoretico-critical edition ) REMAINS the leading scholar on Hebrew Manuscripts of the last 400 years. The point is that we DO know shich Hebrew manuscripts are accurate and which ones are not. The information has been available long before the errant conclusions of mr. Trimm.

If Mr trimm would study the Historic Texts, and do a lot less trimming, his understanding of Biblical truth would improve.


While much is said about the Apocryphal books, it can be hard to find genuin information. The Apocryphal books were NOT even claimed to be scripture until the Vatican. Council of Trent, which dclared the false books of the Apocrypha to be inspired in the 1500s. For the first 1500 years of christianity, the same 66 books of the Old and New Testaments were the same as what is found in most Bible today. The 14 Apocryphal books were added to Roman Catholic editions of the Bible when the Vatican. could not respond intellectually to the writings of Calvin and Luther on Salvation by faith alone. The very word “apocrypha” means counterfeit. Even Jerome who wrote his own Latin Vulgate (which replaced the older accurate one) admitted that the Apocryphal books were not to be included as scripture. This statement was placed in the beginning of Jeromes translation of them, in the latin. (Modern Vatican editions of the Apocrypha books omit this warning by Jerome.

The Apocrypha plays a large role still today, usually in causing confusion and doubt about the other 66 books of the Bible. Teachers such as James Trimm may try to argue that the Apocryphal books are not reliable but then promote other sources such as the book of Enoch, which is not inspired and was never part of the Hebrew or the Christian canon [list] of Books within the Bible.

Information about the Bible Society and their inclusion of the [False] books of the Apocrypha can be found here at :

A Plea For The inspiration And Canon Of Scripture.


Information about the Canon of Scripture (the 66 Books which should be included in the Bible) can be found here at:

http://www.archive.org/details/reviewofconducto00haldrich

http://www.archive.org/details/booksoldandnewt00haldgoog

http://www.archive.org/details/evidenceauthorit01hald

http://www.archive.org/details/evidenceauthorit02hald


A Plea for the [Inspiration and] use of an accurate Canon of Scripture ( Bible) by the Bible Society .

The Bible Society that led the modern defection from truth was the British and Foreign Bible Society. In 1904, They officially voted to defect to the false Wescott and Hort side, and publish errant [false] versions of the Bible. That is no secret. That is simply a matter of public record. A short version.of some of that material. has already been addressed here. (Her original work. from the 1990s on New Age versions still stands the test of time ). The Edinburgh Bible Society. stayed faithful for a long time, but eventually resistance to the Vatican. was overcome. .


Interesting Information about the Modern False versions of the Bible, which are based on False Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament can be found at:

1) Books by Professor John William Burgon of Oxford University

a] The traditional text of the Holy Gospels vindicated and established .

b] causes of the corruption of the traditional text of the Holy Gospels .

c] The revision revised .


c] The revision revised : three articles reprinted from the Quarterly review :
I. The new Greek text.
II. II. The new English version.
III. III. Westcott and Hort's new textual theory


The Revision Revised is an explanation of the problems in the translation and work of Mr. Westcott and Mr. Hort. Westcott and Hort were apostate false translators who claimed to be faithful Christians. The evidence does not support that conclusion. Westcott in his own book claimed to be part of occult societies. Their work is used for many modern versions of the Bible. Information about them can be found in the work on the Hidden History of the Greek New Testament.



Information that discusses how to tell Accurate Manuscripts from false ones can be found here:

The English Revisers' [Wescott - Hort] Greek Text: Shown to be Unauthorized, Except by [errant] Egyptian Copies Discarded, can be found at:

1) The English Revisers' [Wescott - Hort] Greek Text - Shown to be Unauthorized.

2) Which Version by Mauro.


**The issue of New Testament translation ***

If you happen to want a copy of the New Testament in Hebrew, you can also download this for Free, here:, in high resolution sections:

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 01.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 02.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 03.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 04.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 05.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 06.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 07.

NT Hebrew Hebreu Hebraic – 1898 – 08.


If you want to know more about how the New Testament was produced and printed, you can find
Several works online, which have solid, documented and historic sources. These would include:

Our Own English Bible [History of the Bible] by W. J. Heaton .

The Puritan Bible and other contemporaneous (Testament) versions .


The Bible of the Reformation - its translators and their work (1910).


There is much that has been written on Criticism of the Bible. But most of these are simpy attacks against the contents of the Bible.
There is not much intellectual argument. People ar simply unhappy that God actually claims to be God. Then, some are further unhappy at being informed that there is an afterlife and they should prepare now in order to avoid the wrong eternal destination.

Still textual criticism. has misled many, though through study ., some have recovered..


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Information about the 1611 version is not lacking either. The 1611 King James versions can be found here, online, for Free. It is called the King James version because He ordered it produced. King James did not Personally translate any of the version that has his name.

Details on the life and qualifications of the translators of the King James version [most of them were scholar from Cambridge and Oxford and were much more fluent than James Trimm, in English Ancient Greek, or Hebrew]. Details of the translators can be found online (for free) here:

Translators of the King James Bible Version of 1611.

If you need a spanish edition (1602) , you can find the original version of the Reina Valera here

Reina Valera 1602.

The standard historic Christian New Testament in Ancient Koine Greek has been posted online. This is the versions used by the historic Christian churches around the world for 2000 years. It is called the Textus Receptus, and is available here:

Textus Receptus (Scrivener) 1860.


We do know that as the book of Revelation describes, there are two Christs that do appear. The true jesus Christ is the one who returns in the clouds .and brings His followers to Him in Heaven.


Luke 24: 50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

(Mat 24:30 KJV) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

(Mat 26:64 KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

(Mark 13:26 KJV) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

(Mark 14:62 KJV) And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

The other is a Christ who claims to be the real one, but establishes a Global Kingdom with the Earth as his domain during a period of time that appears to be seven years. This false one has his own characteristics.
, which include the ability to do miracles and to deceive millions upon millions of people:


Revelation 13: 13 And he [the Anti-Christ] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth. by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship.the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he [the Anti-Christ] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive.a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (666.) .


The book of Revelation. is often said to be difficult to understand, unless it is read along with the Old Testament. books of Daniel., Ezekiel., and Isaiah..

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At best, Mr Trimm seems to be a proponent of Judaism., but that shoud not to be confused with Christianity. Salvation by works under the system promoted by the pharisees is not the same as christianity, which is exactly the point made by Saint Paul in the book of Romans..

Perhaps Mr Trimm should learn more about which messiah he is advocating and what the scriptures state. He can always read the standard study on the return of christ . , in order to understand the difference between the true Messiah and the coming counterfeit messiah, who may usher in a false combination of islam . and Vatican. Christianity ( Chrislam ) . .


The Messiah of James Trimm is called the Messiah but does not correspond to the Jesus Christ found in the New Testament. Those seeking truth may find other sources of use to compare the teachings of James Trimm with those of the Word of God (the Old and New Testaments). Mr Trimm will not be as likely to write as much as Darby ., but at least Darby was known to be a true Christian, and someone who produced deep exegetical studies out of the Old and New Testaments. Even Scofield. wrote about the Identity of the Messiah, and produced a small work with sound reasoning and Hebraic documentation. .


The Way International has many strands and branches, and many of those can be found under the surface of the Hebrew Roots movement and the Sacred Name movement..

The teachings of Michael Rood and James Trimm continue to cause much confusion., and lead many astray.

Some have previously addressed the errors of the Theology of James Trimm, Doctor James Trimm's "Jewish" School & International Beit Din . ) to little avail. One must actually study the actual Word of God in order to obtain His Discernment.

Yet the supposed scholarship. of James Trimm leaves a great deal to be desired, leaving one with many doubts and concerns about the issues of plagiarism and lack of scholarship ., (for those who have the courage to find out) , even concerning his knowledge of Hebrew.

it never hurts to learn about genuine salvation . , and learning how to study the Bible. does no harm,
especially when we each ask GOd for wisdom, clarification, and His help to understand.


There is much study which CAN be done concerning true and false versions of the New and Old Testaments. But one consistent theme is that those who are accurate avocates of truth, accurately represent Christianity and can discuss its contents with knowledge.

It has been a usefull allegation for the past 200 years that the real Bible is lost, the true records of christianity cannot be found, and that the historic Greek and Hebrew Manuscripts are not reliable. Yet the evidence demonstrates the contrary. Those who seek truth would do well to study standard historic advocates of Christianity. These include Robert Haldane, Sir Robert Anderson, John W. Burgon, A W Torrey, Spurgon, Calvin, Luther, Jonathan Edwards, Rawlinson, and the Many other advocates of true , standard, and historic Christianity.
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